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MT: Minicamp Day 1 Recap

Posted by Taylor Price on June 12, 2013 – 10:46 AM

The 49ers opened up veteran minicamp with C.J. Spillman taking first-team reps on defense alongside Pro Bowl safety Donte Whitner.

Second-year wideout A.J. Jenkins turned in the best offensive play of the day, snagging a high pass during a team period from second-team quarterback Colt McCoy.

Jenkins continues to improve this offseason and is looking to make a case to start Week 1 along with veteran Anquan Boldin.

More 49ers headlines and minicamp reviews can be found in today’s Morning Tailgate.

Monte Poole of the San Jose Mercury News shared Jenkins’ quotes prior to the opening minicamp session.

Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee offered camp notes, including more details on Jenkins’ big reception.

Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com provided camp notes.

Cam Inman of the San Jose Mercury News discussed Greg Roman’s forward thinking.

Inman also reviewed Nnamdi Asomugha’s acclimation to San Francisco’s defense.

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38 Responses to “MT: Minicamp Day 1 Recap”

  1. By ace on Jun 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/6/12/4424214/craig-dahl-49ers-tipping-plays-vs-rams

    So they know that we know that they know?

    and cortland finnegan is saying they now know who to attack our secondary, to bad hes not a wr, just saying, kinda surprissed our coaches didnt adress this earlier last year when even apperantly our players knew we were tipping plays to the rams

  2. By ace on Jun 12, 2013 | Reply

    wait he knows to much now if we cut him he could go back to the rams and talk about our defense, nah he dont know s h i t yet
    is it me or would it be better if dahl kinda kept quite keep it on the dl bro, let coach talk to the media, cuz he wont say anything relevent

  3. By phatalerror on Jun 12, 2013 | Reply

    “kinda surprissed our coaches didnt adress this earlier last year when even apperantly our players knew we were tipping plays to the rams”

    This is a consequence of inserting a young quarterback into a simplified offense that suited his skillset. Good coaches (read: Jeff Fisher, Pete Carroll, John Harbaugh; Bill Belicheck too if his team’s offense hadn’t coughed up the ball four times and stranded his tired defense on the field again and again) are able to gameplan against those offenses with inferior roster talent.

    This is just one more reason why Kaepernick must be substantially better and smarter in the pocket in 2013. Failure to do so would mean a losing season.

    The 49ers didn’t have this problem when Smith was running the offense.

  4. By bow53 on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    “KAEPERNICKING WILL RETURN 2013″ and many years to come… PROBLEM SOLVE…..

  5. By mfkram64 on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    ya they went the same record with kap. the second half of the year and than to the super bowl only to loss in the super bowl coming up 5 yards short….u r saying they would have won the super bowl with smith? u should have told harbaugh that back in dec….just to let u know they wouldn’t have won the division if smith started rest of season never mine get to super bowl….that’s my crysital ball prodiction…..they came 5 yards from winning super bowl and u r still raging on the move to use kap. over smith……give it up…….

  6. By Micah on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    Wow blaming the tipping of plays on Kaep and questioning whether or not he will be able too be better than he was. Hey PHATALERROR HE WAS A ROOKIE IN HIS FIRST FEW STARTS!!!!!!!! When the Niners played the Rams Kaep was in his like 2nd and 4th NFL starts and our offense is extremely difficult too run, with many substitutions and movements. Kaep was a young qb at that time still trying too figure out the NFL game at the pro level. He got that s**t figured out already and the playoffs proved that. Too even question his ability just proves how ignorant you are and how little football knowledge you have. Kaep improved every game he played and the playoffs didn’t stop him at all. He was back training 2 weeks after the superbowl and showed leadership by getting many of his receivers too go along with him. Kaep has the dedication, ability, raw talent, work ethic, smarts, and everything else too grow into one of the NFL’s best QBs. Take a note cuz I’m not joking. Remember this in about 8 years.

  7. By ace on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    that really falls on coaching and playcalling not quarterbacking

  8. By phatalerror on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    “u should have told harbaugh that back in dec”

    Actually, I said it here in November. Whatever.

  9. By phatalerror on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    “that really falls on coaching and playcalling not quarterbacking”

    OK, so it’s time to call out the double-standard (it’s nice to see things here get back to “normal”):

    Harbaugh chose not to have Smith air it out, and instead relied on the offense to move steadily downfield. Smith’s detractors said at that time that Harbaugh was accomodating Smith’s limitations, and if the 49ers lost, it was Smith’s fault.

    Harbaugh chose not to have Kaepernick play a pocket brand of football and instead utilized this hyper-simplified misdirection offense with occasional throws to Crabtree to mix things up. Kaepernick’s supporters said that Kaepernick was more versatile than Smith, and Craig Dahl and half of the NFL just called you out on that falsehood. And then you have the gall to say that if the 49ers lost, it was Harbaugh’s fault?

    Yes, we’re back to the typical application of the double-standard. I see I have my work cut out for me.

  10. By ace on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    well im gonna disagree cuz by the end of the season kaep was running a more varied and less predictable offense than alex was, but in his 2nd and 4th start, i think vs rams they were able to sniff out plays, but we still ran threw and used playaction off of those, they seemed to predict what we were doing , by the personal or formation,yeah the funny thing is they had very little tape to watch, id say thats more on playcalling than on kaep

  11. By ace on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    is that a double standard ? id say no you cant compare the playbook of an 8 year vet vs a “rookie” but when you look at kaep and how much he’s grown and improved in such a short time id just say wow……. go kaep, this is gonna be a very exciting year

  12. By ace on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    “Smith’s detractors said at that time that Harbaugh was accomodating Smith’s limitations, and if the 49ers lost, it was Smith’s fault.”

    people who blamed smith for a loss ?
    well under harbaugh the biggest game/s we lost with smith(vs giants nfc champ) was clearly not his fault, and the biggest game/s we won with smith(saints game) were clearly his “fault”
    when you look at the “bigger picture” its a young mans game and his name is
    COLLIN KAEPERNICK
    and really dont you wanna see what harbaugh has in his crazy mind set for us to do this year with this team he is molding into his own ?

  13. By ace on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    actually smith didnt lose or win those games, its really a team game , we win and lose as a team and those who dont get that ……

  14. By phatalerror on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    “and really dont you wanna see what harbaugh has in his crazy mind set for us to do this year with this team he is molding into his own ?”

    Yes, I want to see Harbaugh mold Kaepernick into a quarterback that can play from the pocket. There isn’t a highly regarded quarterback in the NFL that isn’t doing that, and until Kaepernick can do that, he won’t be a highly regarded quarterback outside of the Bay Area (and Madden Football).

  15. By phatalerror on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    “actually smith didnt lose or win those games, its really a team game , we win and lose as a team and those who dont get that ……”

    …rooted for Smith to be replaced by anyone. Shaun Hill, David Carr, Troy Smith, anyone.

    And although it’s impossible to attribute a win solely to one player, it is possible for a player to bear absolute responsibility for a loss.

  16. By ace on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    next ur gonna say kaep lost the sb…… well kaep did agree and say that he didnt make plays early in the game that cost us that game, thats another reason hes a winner

  17. By ace on Jun 13, 2013 | Reply

    dude harbaugh is changing football

    “Yes, I want to see Harbaugh mold Kaepernick into a quarterback that can play from the pocket. There isn’t a highly regarded quarterback in the NFL that isn’t doing that, and until Kaepernick can do that, he won’t be a highly regarded quarterback outside of the Bay Area (and Madden Football).”

    kaep can throw from the pocket and he is a highly regarded up and coming qb, and the football we played last year changed the game and how its played , like last year watch as we change the game of football into our game and how we play it

  18. By phatalerror on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    “kaep can throw from the pocket and he is a highly regarded up and coming qb, and the football we played last year changed the game and how its played , like last year watch as we change the game of football into our game and how we play it”

    No. Andrew Luck can throw from the pocket, and he is a highly regarded up and coming quarterback with almost zero supporting cast (the Colts’ signing of Ahmad Bradshaw is going to be huge if he stays healthy).

    And, No. Bill Walsh changed how football was played with the West Coast Offense, which still exists in various forms around the league even after thirty years. Harbaugh is making an excellent use of available personnel, and he’s an excellent coach as to the X’s and O’s, but he has not innovated football. In purely historical terms, the Read-Option and Pistol have been around for years, but their application in the NFL is best described as a ‘blip’, not a ‘trend’. If multiple teams around the league are using ‘Jim Harbaugh’s System’ in ten years, talk to me then about ‘changing the game of football’.

  19. By phatalerror on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    “next ur gonna say kaep lost the sb…… well kaep did agree and say that he didnt make plays early in the game that cost us that game, thats another reason hes a winner”

    I didn’t say Kaepernick single-handedly lost the Super Bowl, but he didn’t do a darn thing to win it before being down by 22 points, and his lack of production definitely didn’t put his team in a position to succeed. It’s not like he struggled heavily with receivers dropping ball after ball as happened to the 2011 quarterback that lost throwing against the inferior defense.

    And while I appreciate pithy comments about athletes owning their mistakes because I do indeed try to own my own mistakes, calling him a winner in this context is silly. His team didn’t win, and neither did he.

  20. By mfkram64 on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    hey blahblahblah this site is no fun anymore with u one it……it’s so old your bashing of kap. and harbaugh and raging on every play kap. did last year….read your post they r the same every day just put in differant words….the vibe is the same…..u r trying to justify keeping alex smith…it’s over it’s soooooooo old he is gone…but u still want to pound it like pounding sand……as u can see there isn’t alot of people on the site anymore cuz u r a pessemist and put our team down….u r not a fan of the niners….don’t say u r cuz u r NOT! why r u on this site? to rag on the qb and coachs? u have nothing good to say EVER!!!!

  21. By mfkram64 on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    your long winded rants r soooooooo old…..it’s the same rant every day…..u don’t like kap. we get it….o well move on the guy came in and came 5 yards from winnning super bowl and u r ragging on him and harbaugh…..any other team in the nfl would have loved to be in the 9ers position…..micah said it right the kid came in and played great….what do u want from this kid? he did it all….but win super bowl…5 yards short which if they call a couple of differant plays they might have won……u r a tired worn out piece of shi$!!!!!!

  22. By mfkram64 on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    his lack of production say what…..thats why they play two halfs….he’s not going to score every time they get the ball….cullver got lite up and the special teams failed again…i know thats kaps fault right? u r so narrow mined it stupid…..

  23. By rjdniner on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    just got my first 49er jersey # 85 Davis for fathers day gift REAL NICE there real had to get here ,now about the comments that I just read phatalerro now where and why did Bill WALSH come up with the west coast off you should know that. Me am looking forward to the season NOT POSTING ABOUT THE WHAT IF THIS OR THAT ……..

  24. By phatalerror on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    “as u can see there isn’t alot of people on the site anymore cuz u r a pessemist and put our team down”

    Wait, I thought you said no one cared about what I said. Now you’re saying my comments have influenced user sentiments? And my prognostications may be pessimistic relative to your own, but I am certainly not a pessimist. (How could I be, when I supported everyone’s favorite punching bag, Alex Smith?)

    They’re probably at the graduation ceremonies of family and friends. They’ll be back here. And when they return, nothing will have changed: There will still have been nothing to say to refute what I’ve written.

  25. By phatalerror on Jun 14, 2013 | Reply

    “where and why did Bill WALSH come up with the west coast off you should know that.”

    Where do you want me to start? The predecessors of the West Coast Offense had been in use for around twenty years before that name was pinned to Walsh’s offense.

    And he ran that offense because it gave his roster the best opportunity to win. And they actually did win Super Bowls with it. And that is where the contrast between the Harbaugh offense and the Walsh offense begins.

  26. By rjdniner on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    and they actually did when super bowls with it …..REALLY, I DID NOT KNOW THAT …….

  27. By phatalerror on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    “and they actually did when super bowls with it …..REALLY, I DID NOT KNOW THAT …….”

    Of course you knew that. But this is why it is inappropriate to compare the quantum leap in NFL offensive scheming that took place under Bill Walsh with seeming uniqueness of Jim Harbaugh’s offense. It doesn’t matter that you reinvented the wheel if it doesn’t roll faster.

  28. By rjdniner on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    you must think that only you and you alone know everything about football on this blog site. Then tell me why the Chargers when they had one of the best QB, could not get to the SB or The Bills who went and could,nt get it done. Walsh was fortunate that he had the personal and that is what happing with the 49ers Jim is not reinventing the wheel……..

  29. By phatalerror on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    No, Walsh was not fortunate. His team drafted pretty darn well, just as Trent Baalke has contributed greatly to the 49ers’ present situation concerning their roster.

    I thought you were trying to refute my statements about the 49ers’ utilization of the Pistol and Read-Option (as compared to the 49ers’ historically significant implementation of the West Coast Offense) following this comment by ace:

    “dude harbaugh is changing football”

    I’m not even sure what you’re basing your argument against me on anymore. It just looks like you’re trying to say that the 49ers were somehow unlucky to lose the Super Bowl just like the Bills were ‘unlucky’ to lose one because of a missed field goal.

    I don’t think I’m the single-most intelligent person when it comes to football, but I don’t accept anything anyone says at face value either. I’ll challenge anything I wish to if I don’t think it doesn’t get past the smell test.

  30. By phatalerror on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    I hate having to rewrite my posts here because of the filters, only to leave silly-looking artifacts because I don’t have the time to re-edit them thoroughly.

    *I’ll challenge anything I wish to if I think it doesn’t get past the smell test.*

  31. By rjdniner on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    there is not a head coach out there that has not gone and looked at plays that were in some playbook from the 50s the 60 ,70 all the way up to the present. tell me a head coach that is not doing that …..or a DC that has not used some sort of def schem that is from that time period …….

  32. By ace on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    “dude harbaugh is changing football”
    and i still feel that way,its easy to look back after walsh won sb’s and say he was a great coach, i think the coaching style and ever evolving playbook coach has is changing football……ask the packers, wait no they are probably still pised

  33. By rjdniner on Jun 15, 2013 | Reply

    alright then were did all the great coach,s that we all watched get there coaching from, When a term is given to a coaching style that we have never seen we think he,s changing football. the basic elements of the game will never change no matter how big a play book gets the only thing that has changed is the players that have brought there style of play . Harbaugh is putting he,s own style of coaching into play and were did he get his coaching….and the answer to the first question and can be found in the history of the game that we all love …………

  34. By phatalerror on Jun 16, 2013 | Reply

    “alright then were did all the great coach,s that we all watched get there coaching from”

    rjdniner, I’ll return your question with a question: What does it matter where a coach’s favorite plays come from? The NFL is littered with head coaches and former head coaches who had a significant amount of success with one team (in many cases, as a coordinator), but struggled on other teams with different rosters.

    I give Harbaugh a huge amount of credit for adapting what was seen as a college offense for use in the NFL. However, what he did last year won’t work as well this next year, and the reasons essentially come down to this: Just as offenses only work when you have the right parts (not every offensive roster has the ideal personnel to run it effectively, regardless of how effective the coach’s schemes are or how good a playcaller he is), offenses may also only work when the defenses don’t have the personnel and coaching to stop the schemes. In other words, if defenses are caught with their ‘pants down’ (think Dom Capers of the 2012 Packers), they can be destroyed because of inferior coaching (many Packers defenders remarked at the lack of adjustment on Capers’ part to stop the bleeding in the Divisional Playoff). Better coaches with personnel acclimated to dealing with misdirection offenses can effectively stop offenses of the sort Harbaugh is getting praised for using. Coaches who get humiliated this year in the manner that Capers did will not retain their positions past 2013.

    People have remarked on the relatively ‘few number of plays in which Colin Kaepernick played from the Pistol or directed the Read-Option scheme’, but what they fail to recognize is that their entire offense was predicated on the success of setting up such plays. There are a number of things that could happen to the 49ers’ offense that would render them unable to run any part of that offense effectively: An injury to Gore (whose singular effectiveness running between the tackles sets up seal blocks on subsequent outside runs), an injury to Boldin (whose presence requires attention by more than one defender), or an injury to Kaepernick (whose replacement doesn’t have the raw footspeed needed to run the plays that have been run). And even if the 49ers’ offense stays healthy, they will still struggle against the league’s better coaches because the solution to the offense used by the 49ers relies on strict discipline on the part of team players. If they get caught in the misdirection, the 49ers have the personnel to thoroughly punish that defense, but if they play with a touch less reaction and a little more deliberation (which in many respects is counter to what most defensive coordinators want to instill in their defensive players), they can squelch the offense.

    The 49ers on the other hand can remain one step ahead: Kaepernick needs to evolve into a pocket quarterback at least as good as Smith was. Don’t let the arm fool you: Kaepernick isn’t in Smith’s neighborhood in that regard.

  35. By JParker on Jun 16, 2013 | Reply

    I am predicting this team to be more explosive offensively and about the same on defense through the first half of the season and then our new players will gel with the rest of the defense and then we will dominate on both sides of the ball and it will not matter who we play. This is our year and next year and the year after that.

  36. By dave g. on Jun 16, 2013 | Reply

    FATAL-ERROR needs to be slapped.

  37. By rjdniner on Jun 17, 2013 | Reply

    yes, but needs to understand that he wasted all that effort on that post we are all keenly aware of what can happen during a football season……..

  38. By bow53 on Jun 17, 2013 | Reply

    what a waste of space and post, worthless comment , the guy is a thick headed S.O.B……well never move on, for the rest of his life, i’m not gonna be surprise if this guy is just go have a heart attack and just drop dead some day 4 not letting go of his feeling…..dude, move on its gonna eat u inside……( PHATA. )……

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