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Morning Tailgate: Feb. 11

Posted by Alex Espinoza on February 11, 2013 – 11:57 AM

Jim Harbaugh enjoyed his annual golf weekend in Pebble Beach, wrapping up the AT&T Pro-Am in 13th place with partner Jason Day. The 49ers coach will likely retire his golf clubs until next year’s Pro-Am, as he gets ready to return to work for next week’s NFL Scouting Combine and April’s NFL Draft.

Mark Purdy of the Bay Area News Group recapped Harbaugh’s weekend on the links. “Harbaugh and Day were the pro-am leaders at the midway point but lagged a bit Saturday and couldn’t make up ground Sunday,” Purdy wrote. “It didn’t really matter. Four days of listening to encouragement from the galleries definitely left the coach in a better mood just seven days after his team’s agonizing defeat to the Baltimore Ravens in New Orleans.”

The rest of today’s Morning Tailgate looks ahead to possible offseason moves for the 49ers and more.

Dave Feldman of CSN Bay Area served as Harbaugh’s caddie and interviewed him after the golf tournament.

Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle broke down the free agent picture for the 49ers this offseason.

Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee examined Percy Harvin as a possible target for the 49ers.

Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com also looked at Harvin as a potential addition to the 49ers.


Wise words from Tarell Brown.

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40 Responses to “Morning Tailgate: Feb. 11”

  1. By tanglung on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply


  2. By tanglung on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I just purchased a mini 49ERS helmet and a mini SF GIANTS batting hat. Does anyone know who sells protective cases for these?

  3. By ATrain on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    49ers babe

  4. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    i mentioned a few guys i like in up coming draft..one other guy is xavier rhodes..c/b from fla. state 6′ 2″ 217…

  5. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    what’s everyones thought on harvin? great talent but gets hurt alot…

  6. By phatalerror on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Re: Matt Barrows on Percy Harvin

    What benefit would there be to get Percy Harvin when the 49ers already have too many receivers for Kaepernick to ever look their way?

    Michael Crabtree: Almost 33% of Kaepernick’s targets
    Vernon Davis: <15% of Kaepernick's targets
    Randy Moss: <15% of Kaepernick's targets
    Delanie Walker: <12% of Kaepernick's targets

    The only receiver in the NFL targeted more often relative to his teammates was Brandon Marshall. Jay Cutler's line is worse than the 49ers, and his receiving options after Marshall are weaker than all four of Kaepernick's most common targets.

    Then you have Andrew Luck to Reggie Wayne, Andy Dalton to A.J. Green, Matt C. to Dwayne Bowe, Ryan Fitzpatrick to Stevie Johnson, Matt Schaub to Andre Johnson, Cam Newton to Steve Smith, Matthew Stafford to Calvin Johnson, and Tom Brady to Wes Welker (around 27.5% of all targets).

    There's a pattern to this: All are young quarterbacks who latched on to one receiving option, or they are veteran quarterbacks who have few legitimate receiving options between roster talent and roster health. Given the state of the 49ers' receiving corps relative to these other teams, Colin Kaepernick fits more closely with the first category than the second.

    The 49ers should not throw the kind of money Percy Harvin is asking for his way. He will be underutilized in the 49ers' offense, at least as a receiver. And if you're looking for more of an all-purpose player, there are cheaper options available.

  7. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    i think it’s time to let moss go….kinda not liking his vibe…hey he kept quite all year till the super bowl now he doesn’t like his role wants more touch’s i think he is going to be more trouble if they keep him this year…

  8. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    like i said before i like wallace but he wants alot of money…BUT he will do what moss can’t do anymore open up the field…i think aremendola would be a great pickup…w/r and punt returner and young…plays all out every play…

  9. By james on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    No more Moss . He is a disrespectful waste of talent. In a weird way I am glad he didn’t mooch a ring off the 49ers !!

  10. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    o man blahblahblah..more bashing of kap

  11. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    he will be underutilized in the 49er offense at least as a receiver…ya sure he will….u know how many wr’s will be lining up to play for the niners?

  12. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    there weren’t alot of deep threat rec’s wanting on niners last year cuz of smith but wait till this year…

  13. By tanglung on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    phatablahblah is like a VIRUS / STALKER.

  14. By tanglung on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I still have 49ERS FEVER.

  15. By bow53 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    technically alex is out, they’ll try to trade him, if no takers then they’ll release him, i hope we can trade him for some good ,physical cb……..i sounds like a broken record but i can’t help but to pinpoint the lose on r corners,my opinion…….

  16. By tanglung on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Does anyone know how many draft picks and what rounds the 49ERS have for this coming draft?

  17. By dave g. on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    49ers 2013 picks
    1. First round: Own pick
    2. Second round: Own pick
    3. Third round: Own pick
    4. Third round: From Carolina in trade-back during 2012 draft
    5. Third round: Likely compensatory selection
    6. Fourth round: Own pick
    7. Fifth round: Own pick
    8. Fifth round: From Indianapolis in trade-back during 2012 draft
    9. Sixth round: Own pick
    10. Sixth round: From Miami in trade-back during 2012 draft
    11. Seventh round: Own pick
    12. Seventh round: From Cincinnati for Taylor Mays
    13. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection
    14. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection

  18. By Hermie on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    They should be able to pick up a pretty good pick for Alex. There are teams in need out there and someone will take a chance. Too many teams that need a QB to keep the seat warm while they get their own guy in there. It works to the 9ers favor having the Eagles resign Vick as that would have been a QB someone would have picked-up.

  19. By tanglung on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Thanks dave g.. THE 49ERS have some trade bait pick wise..

  20. By 49erdefense2012 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I dont think any team will give up more than a 4th round pick for alex smith,,,his body of work was below avg or lack luster untill the arrival of harbaugh and his staff

  21. By tanglung on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    49erdefense, your probably wright. But a 4th round pick is better than just releasing him.

  22. By 49erdefense2012 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    yea,either way,he is gone,unless something really crazy happens,,

  23. By phatalerror on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    “u know how many wr’s will be lining up to play for the niners?”

    You tell me. Right now, tell me who will play for the 49ers for the money the 49ers will be willing to pay for the position. Then you can be the one who has to eat his words come Training Camp.

  24. By tanglung on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    blah blah blah

  25. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    eat this blahblahblah…they got a 36 year old wr that was out of football for a year that’s the best they could do last year for a deep threat…manngham was a number 2 rec/ at best,,,,they will make a move for a deep threat…numbers always play a part the differance this year is they have a qb who can deliver the deep ball…and they will land a deep threat…chew on that

  26. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    i know one thing moss wore out his welcome when he goes and say’s he is the best wr EVER! really randy sorry buddy but there was a guy called jerry rice! HELLO! he sealed his fate in a niner uniform…read what romo and d. clark said about moss’s effort..i said it in my post…he gives up on plays and takes plays off..time to move on randy…i like moss but after what he said on media day that was it for me…

  27. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    just think about the niners getting a burner at wideout…thats what smith and jones do for ravens…that’s it,, go long we saw it first hand…the niners have the qb who isn’t afraid to throw it long and we all know he can so it’s time to go get a burner..the reason they didn’t get a burner cuz no one wanted to come here with alex at qb..he can’t throw long ball…

  28. By mfkram64 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    every team needs a guy to go long and open up field..look at all the teams…they have at least one..i’m not picking on moss but that’s who the niners had this year…u need a guy who can go deep..this offense will be so potent it will be awesome…i will be surprised if they don’t go for a deep threat…

  29. By phatalerror on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    “manngham was a number 2 rec/ at best”

    One of the biggest praises Tom Brady has earned is that he has been able to work with inferior quality receiver corps (but, of course, drops kill).

    With that, when Smith was quartebacking, Manningham received 16.1% of all targets. When Kaepernick was quarterbacking, Manningham received 7.4% of all targets. Factoring in games missed by Manningham as well as other 49ers’ receivers due to injury, little adjustment is needed to those numbers.

    The point is, Alex Smith made Manningham a useful receiver: In 7 games Manningham produced an average of 40 yards and 4 receptions a game. His touchdown reception was on a red zone target. Kaepernick on the other hand only got 34 yards of receptions and 3 receptions per game, and not a single touchdown. In the case of Kaepernick, Manningham was an afterthought. Manningham however was used correctly by Smith: He moved the chains.

    Manningham looked better when Smith was quarterbacking. The same could be said for every 49ers wide receiver not named Michael Crabtree.

  30. By tanglung on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Kaepernick for President

  31. By Hermie on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Alex’s last two games with Manningham…9 catches, 92yds
    Kaeps. last two games with Manningham…10 catches 116yds

    Stats are what you make them Moron!!!

  32. By Hermie on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Alex never had a two game stretch that matched the number of catches OR yrads gained!!! Do you want more stats you Moron!!

  33. By Hermie on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Let me qualify that last statement…never had a two game stretch with Manningham!!

  34. By Hermie on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Gee blahblahblah…just proved you wrong!!!

  35. By tanglung on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Hermie…. BIG SMILE….

  36. By mfkram64 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    to funny blahblahblah…no matter what is said it comes down to a negative post by u against kaepernick and all positive for alex..my point was manngingham was signed cuz he fit for alex he isn’t a deep threat…the best they could get was a 36 year old guy who sat out a year cuz no other deep threat wanted to come here…they knew they wouldn’t see the ball to much…watch and learn blahblahblah…..watch and learn…..

  37. By mfkram64 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    ya brady had alot of inferior rec’s…welker,gronk,branch,hernendez,loyd,and moss real inferior rec’s…he had gaffeney,caldwell and pattern plus a few other guys who he didn’t make look good….your point is stupid!

  38. By tanglung on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply


  39. By phatalerror on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    My point had nothing to do with total yards in one game. It had to do with consistency. It had to do with players registering more than one reception in a game. It had to do with spreading the ball around so that the opponent can’t shut down the aerial game. Kaepernick’s bread and [spreadable solidified dairy substance] was the 20 yard completion (along with frequent incompletions), and so therefore you would see one receiver out of the bunch have a big game.

    The 49ers had two one hundred yard receivers in the Super Bowl. And guess what? THEY LOST. They lost because their quarterback targeted only four different receivers all game. They lost because instead of steadily moving the chains, they consistently aimed high and missed. Kaepernick was a master of the 20 yard throw (actually he wasn’t; it was just what he did best), but when it came down to a 5 yard lob, he couldn’t do it.

    It wasn’t Moss’ fault, or Walker’s, or Davis’, or Crabtree’s. It was Kaepernick’s fault. But way to twist my argument into something it wasn’t. Thanks for playing. Come back when you’ve achieved second grade reading level.

    Oops, I put my condescending voice on again.

    Thanks for reading.

  40. By phatalerror on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    2001 Super Bowl: Tom Brady threw to Troy Brown, J.R. Redmond, Jermaine Wiggins, David Patten, Marc Edwards, Antowain Smith, and Kevin Faulk.
    2003 Super Bowl: Tom Brady threw to Deion Branch, Troy Brown, David Givens, Daniel Graham, Kevin Faulk, and Mike Vrabel (yes, the linebacker, who caught a touchdown reception that game).
    2004 Super Bowl: Tom Brady threw to Deion Branch, Troy Brown, David Givens, Daniel Graham, Kevin Faulk, Corey Dillon, and Mike Vrabel (that linebacker caught another touchdown reception!)

    Some big names, and a lot of players who went undistinguished. 2012 was probably the best year Brady ever had when it comes to quality in his receiver corps, and yet he still spread the ball around. Why? It’s how players get open for touchdowns.

    You didn’t really think it was lost on the Ravens’ coaches that when throwing in the Red Zone, Kaepernick targeted Crabtree almost 3:1 compared to number two red zone target Vernon Davis. That’s why Kaepernick couldn’t throw for a touchdown at the end of the Super Bowl.

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