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Morning Tailgate: Dec. 27

Posted by Taylor Price on December 27, 2012 – 9:31 AM

Nine Niners made the 2013 Pro Bowl on Wednesday. However, it is now a goal for those members of the San Francisco 49ers to not play in the game.

Joe Staley, Mike Iupati, Frank Gore, Justin Smith, Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Aldon Smith, Dashon Goldson and Donte Whitner all would rather play in the Super Bowl than the league’s annual All-Star game.

Nonetheless, it was still remarkable for the 49ers to send nine players to the Pro Bowl for a second consecutive season. Furthermore, San Francisco led the NFL with nine Pro Bowl selections.

“The 49ers sent two-fifths of their starting offensive line and six members of their defense to the Pro Bowl,” noted ESPN.com’s Mike Sando.

Matt Barrows of The Sacramento Bee examined the nine Pro Bowl selections for San Francisco.

Barrows also looked at the 49ers options to replace injured wideout Mario Manningham.

Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com noted that the 49ers selections seemingly came in pairs.

Maiocco also checked in with first-round pick A.J. Jenkins who is ready to contribute to the 49ers offense.

49ers.com shared the conference calls from Pro Bowl newcomers A. Smith, Bowman, Whitner and Iupati. We also examined the team’s options after Manningham and the defense’s outlook on facing Arizona with the NFC West on the line.

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97 Responses to “Morning Tailgate: Dec. 27”

  1. By RED N GOLD on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    All the phony fans talkin about they think the niners are done need to shut up and stop watching then. This isnt the site for haters. The 9ers practically represent the entire NFC pro bowl team and we have ” fans” saying we wont take the trophy home?! We will overcome adversity, we had the same exact problem last year. You guys dont think the team is well aware of their situation? Watch as our champions kill the odds again!

  2. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    49ers are well represented at this years pro bowl,,

  3. By temper11 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    test

  4. By temper11 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Phatalerror… if you are out there… you rock dude/dudette! Read your posts over the last few days – simply right on point.

    Thanks for the thoughts, although I think they mostly fall on deaf ears.

    Merry Christmas.

    Go Niners. Injuries have really hurt us, but I’ll still be pullin’ for the red & gold.

  5. By Hermie on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Love you people that rip the team and coaches and then go….I’m pullin for you….you are going to lose because it’s just Karma…but let’s go 9ers…Yeah right!!

  6. By Hermie on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Who knows…we may have been 9-7 under Alex given the whole year…Try supporting the whole team and not just some!

  7. By jesse wolf on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    the defence is a beast and all should be in pro vowl gllad yoo see them wellrepsented thid yesr but more importsnt is winning superdowl #6 go niners

  8. By johninchina on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    One more game, the season finale, to take us into the playoffs !!! Let’s go Niners, hope to see you excel in all phases and overcome the adversities that have plagued us this season . . . fight together, as the team you are, one team, many members, but all necessary to the team. This week will be your test for mental and emotional toughness, from opening kickoff to final gun . . . light the fire, the 49er spirit of champions !!! Go Niners, press on, press on, press on !!!

  9. By crabber59 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    49erdefense2012, Niner defense is overrated, just like my seahawk d-fence is underrated. Come on man Richard Sherman not a pro-bowler?? That is insane given the year he’s having. The funny thing is why did Coach Humbug not draft/sign this former Stanford player?? can you imagine Sherman as CB in the niner secondary?? then the niner d-fence would be complete but i’m glad he’s a seahawk. “Go Hawks”

  10. By crabber59 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    BTW: I just love to come on the 49er network and bash you niner fans until your black&Blue in the face!! Just like the Hawks will do it again should they meet in the playoffs even in your house.

  11. By bow53 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    u can keep sherman we don’t need to take steroids in order to win…

  12. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

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  13. By jamie on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    J. Smith with tendon tear…..hes done. Were done. Its reality. No hating, just reality.

  14. By Randy K. on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    I didn’t think Justin Smith was as pivotal as the media was communicating all week. But I guess now he really is. I hope he is on the mend, but we won’t know what his injury really is till after the season is over. Harbaugh is now again forced to press another rookie into service which had he done so, he might have won the Rams game and wouldn’t need help from the Vikings this sunday. I hope he gives Richardo Lockett a shot too his speed is exceptional but can he catch?

  15. By bow53 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    and one more thing crabby u might face the redskin in there house, i believe thats the end of ur season dude, ur not playing in ur own turf, thats the only place u win anyways , right……..

  16. By jamie on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Way too many injuries to overcome…..depressed.

  17. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    cant

  18. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    post

  19. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    more

  20. By jamie on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Confirmed by the Niners its a tendon tear. This is very painful and causes significant lack of strength. Hell need surgery at some point. He wont be back for the playoffs.

  21. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    seakawks fans,,,what a joke

  22. By 9erdog on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    crabber, they have medicine for that, scratching won’t help!

  23. By 9erdog on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    “I didn’t think Justin Smith was as pivotal as the media was communicating all week.” Really?

  24. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    c r a p p e r 59 waited untill his seakawks finally beat the 49ers before he tries to talk smack,,,sounds like a fair weather fan to me.

  25. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    back in 2010 the 49ers needed to beat the cards at home to win the nfc west, singletary sucked as a coach and we lost that game, handing the west title to the 7-9 seakawks who beat the saints in seattle in the first wild card game,,,I dont think that senario will play out this time,,,we WILL beat the cards,,,the vikes WILL beat the pack and we will have the #2 seed,,seattle WILL be ONE AND DONE THIS YEAR,,,maybe next year c r a p p e r59,,,and by the way,,coach harbaugh owns your head coach and didnt draft sherman the cheater cuz he knew the kid needed ‘roids to succeed at the next level and wanted nothin to do with him…

  26. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    or dont you know the players on your team at all??? google it,,,sherman was diciplined early in his colligate career because of a performance enhancing substance,,,fake fans,,they have no knowledge,,,only blind devotion to a team they know little about and only pay attention to the team if they are winning

  27. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    the loss of justin smith of course stings and you cant expect whoever takes his place to just come in and start kicking but like justin did,,they will need a few games to get their feet under them whoever fills his shoes,,,but the real task is caoch fangio putting together a scheme that untilizes the talent he has available and wait till you see cam johnson play been waiting for this kid to get an oppourtunity and now he’s got it

  28. By 9erdog on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Too lose so many Quality Players at anytime of the season is tough, but at this time of the season it definitely makes the tough road ahead, so much more so! PLease no more injuries!
    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONINERS!

  29. By 9erdog on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Why did Cam Johnson drop so far down in the draft?

  30. By JMaz on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    J. Smith is not done. he had a bone spur that was detached from the tendon. No surgery is required, just strengthening exercises is all. He most likely will not play sunday against the cardinals, but if the vikings beat the packers which i feel that can happen, we will have that first round bye! All true faithful better want the Vikings to win on Sunday! I want my team rested as much as possible, but either way we can do it!

  31. By phatalerror on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    “Phatalerror… if you are out there… you rock dude… Read your posts over the last few days – simply right on point.”

    Thanks.

    Here’s the updated numbers on Smith’s offensive drives vs. Kaepernick’s:
    Alex Smith:
    82 drives, 523 plays (6.4 plays per drive)
    Average starting field position on drives: 72.0 yards to goal
    Points per drive: 2.2
    Points per drive on drives starting in opponent’s red zone: 5.0

    Colin Kaepernick:
    79 drives, 469 plays (5.9 plays per drive)
    Average starting field position on drives: 65.4 yards to goal
    Points per drive: 2.2
    Points per drive on drives starting in opponent’s red zone: 4.3

    Smith’s drives are longer, giving the defense more rest.

    But have the defense and special teams really played better overall under Smith’s tenure or Kaepernick’s?

    When Smith is quarterbacking:
    80 drives, 517 plays (6.5 plays per drive)
    Average starting field position of the opponent on drives: 74.1 yards to goal
    Opponents’ Points per drive: 1.3
    Opponents’ Points per drive on drives starting in 49ers’ red zone: 3.0
    13 Turnovers Forced

    When Kaepernick is quarterbacking:
    81 drives, 528 plays (6.5 plays per drive)
    Average starting field position of the opponent on drives: 76.5 yards per goal
    Opponents’ Points per drive: 1.6
    Opponents’ Points per drive on drives starting in 49ers’ red zone: 7.0
    10 Turnovers Forced

    The defense has been on the field for more plays per game since Kaepernick began quarterbacking full-time. Correspondingly, the 49ers’ defense has given up more points. That fatigue especially showed in both the 4th quarter of the Patriots game and the whole game in Seattle.

    The fix for this is fairly simple: If Colin Kaepernick is going to continue being the franchise’s quarterback, he needs to manage the game better. Once-off touchdowns are great for momentum, but they’re hard to come by, especially against the elite defenses commonly seen in the playoffs. If he can’t string a solid series of offensive plays together, the team suffers. He needs to take what the defense gives him, as the high-risk high-reward approach has been steadily decreasing in effectiveness as defenses have adjusted their game plan for him.

  32. By phatalerror on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    “back in 2010 the 49ers needed to beat the cards at home to win the nfc west, singletary sucked as a coach and we lost that game, handing the west title to the 7-9 seakawks who beat the saints in seattle in the first wild card game”

    I remember that game. Alex had a career best game against the Seahawks two weeks before, had a crummy game next week, and was benched for the Arizona game. Troy Smith started, played like Troy Smith, and ended up being benched for Alex Smith. However, the damage had been done, and the 49ers lost.

    Yes, Singletary was a horrible coach. But now history is repeating itself.

  33. By tanglung on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    I honestly feel that the 49ers will be alright. A first round bye would be nice, But not counting on it. I just hope there are no more injuries on Sunday.
    On another note. Has anyone hurd from 11years, He hasn’t posted after this last game. I’m worried about him. NOT!!! 11 years, it’s just a game.
    GO 49ERS

  34. By 9erdog on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    @phatalerro: yep I couldn’t agree more. And with Alex starting we had Kap on the sidelines ready to go, that made sense to me anyway, we had a starter and a backup. Now I don’t believe we have either, the order of things has been turned upside down. IMHO it would have been so much smarter to let Kap, finish this season as the backup, then starting him next year (was the plan anyway?)! That way Kap. would have been able to grow into the QB position, and I don’t believe he would feel all the pressor he’s feeling now …….. just saying, eh?
    But we are where we are and with that being said …………..
    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONINERS!

  35. By 9erdog on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    11 years? he thought he had it all figured out?

  36. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    just a quick note to you guys who use like 3-4 names on the the blog,,,your slipping and letting everyone see who you really are,,,jus’ sayin’

  37. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    yes,history is repeating itself but I think we have a better qb and an overall better team now than we did at the end of the season in 2010, I am certain we will beat arizona, not so certain that the vikings will beat the packers, although the metrodome is where rodgers has had the worst games of his career,, he has struggled there almost every game he has played there,,but we must handle our own business first. and if we are the 3 seed we go where? that is the qeustion, fo that is not settled yet either.

  38. By 9erdog on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    well one game at a time only way to go, as Madden has said!
    “that why they play the games” ,, and there you go!

  39. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Im a 49er fan, that means I support my team in all phases. coaching,roster,depth chart, doesnt mean I agree with everything that goes on, but I support it.was I happy with the play of alex smith? for the most part,not untill harbaugh took over. yes, I saw glimpses of improvement and sound fundamental qb play from alex,sporadic at best but something was there, kinda early eli manning like,especially when turner was the o.c.,,but, no consistency, in comes harbaugh,HUGE improvement with alex, hope was re-kindled and all the boo’s for the guy turned into a loud roaring stadium voicing its approval of alex, even when mistakes were made we had faith. then the kap project began, vast potential but yet unreached,harbaugh decides to make a switch late season even though we were winning more than losing but we needed a spark coach thought, didnt agree with it but as a loyal fan I supported it. kap showed us some good and then showed us some not so good.and here we are, at the last regular season game of the year, and the west title and possible #2 seed is on the line.
    IN HARBAUGH WE TRUST,,,49ER DEFENSE#1 2012,,,YOU GOTTA BELIEVE

  40. By Bill Bye on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Am I the only one that feels that the Seahawks intentionally went after our receivers?

  41. By bow53 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    to me it does’nt matter if were in the 3rd or 2nd seed, we are in the post season for crying out loud..so, who ever were facing in the game “BRING IT ON!!! the cards game i’m not worried about that, the win will come naturally…….like i said everybody gets out of that game healthy , we are gonna be alright…….

  42. By DMT on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    phatalerror blames everybody except Alex Smith. What a yawn fest .

  43. By crabber59 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    hey 49erDefense2012 “sticks&stones” may break my bones but your lame words toward me will never hurt me! So you really think the Vikes will beat GB?? Well care to make alittle wager on that game? I’ll even bet the spread(3pts) that the pack beat Minn. and get the #2 seed. I know AD is all-world but nothing can help “Flounder Ponder” That QB only look good once this season, and that was when he whupped the niners and made your D-Fefense look silly. Face it niners will have to play a 1st rd. game and play the giants(if they win). There’s no way the niners will beat NY Giants even at home. like i said one and DONE.
    Go Hawks

  44. By bow53 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    @crabby since theres no way ur playing in ur owe turf during the duration of the whole playoffs there a chance u gonna face the redskins, like i said all along, thats gonna be the end of the line for u guys, or heck the rams might kick ur a$$ come sunday…..u can count on that……

  45. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    hey c r a p p e r59 the giants have like no chance of making the playoffs,, proving my point that your an idiot

  46. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    what an idot, he talks like the seakawks have scoreboard over the 49ers,,that was the 1st time pete carrol led the ‘kawks to a voctory over the 49ers, it was the seakawks 1st win against the 49ers in how many games again c r a p p e r59? the dude is just bitter that his seakawks cant win on the road and weill be one and done in the playoffs having no chance at winning the super bowl,,,again,,hey c r a p p e r59 how does it feel to lose a super bowl cuz’ I wouldnt know…

  47. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    the idiot doesnt even know the playoff seeding,,let alone where his team will play

  48. By Buzz Clifford on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Justin Smith is not done.!!!!!! Have you seen his M.R.I. ?

  49. By rypat on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    I read on a post that a fan saw the 9ers going 1-1 against the pats and hawks. Problem is, these are the types of teams that will be in the playoffs and there is no room for a let down. Seems to me the 9ers are good for 2 then lay a big turd. I also called it when Hardhead made the switch to Kaep that he would not turn back regardless. Hey coach, show Kaep where the playclock is! I do not want to hear the excusese when 9ers make an early playoff exit. Hardhead coaches sleep in the bed they make, great coaches find ways to win championships! Could it be that the locker room is affected by the QB decision? Probably has not crossed the minds of those of you who already have Hardhead in Canton! To me, and I watch every minute of every niner game, there are times this guy looks totally clueless on the sideline! p.s. next year draft some guys that can contribute! Maybe some depth on the Dline? Not sure we need 9 rb’s and 12 wr’s.

  50. By phatalerror on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    “phatalerror blames everybody except Alex Smith.”

    This is untrue. Alex Smith made some terrible throws, especially in the Giants game, but name me a quarterback in the NFL that hasn’t made a few of those. Alex Smith himself was forthcoming with his disappointment in some of his throws. My argument has simply continued to be that Alex Smith has much less to apologize for after a game when compared with Colin Kaepernick.

    My philosophy on quarterbacks is a little broader than most. The typical fan believes that the quarterback that tosses more than twice as many touchdowns as interceptions when rushing for only 30% of offensive plays is the ultimate quarterback to own, and they include quarterbacks like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady under that ‘definition’. Of course, that is flawed, as the fact is during 2012, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers all rank in the lower half of the NFL franchises in throw/rush ratios. The upper half is dominated by teams that haven’t won at least 8 games this season, with the only exceptions being the Falcons, Ravens, Colts, Giants, and Cowboys.

    The wise offensive coordinator wants to rush as much as possible, throwing the ball to open up the middle for the runningbacks, and not vice versa. I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve read that it is somehow a black eye to Alex Smith that the 49ers have to run so much. Guess what? The Patriots rush on 43.5% of plays, while the 49ers rush on 50.4%. That’s a bit of a difference, but when you consider the strengths of each team on their offensive line, at runningback, and in their receiver corps, the variance is readily explainable. Both teams rush as often as they need to, or perhaps, as often as they can. Good play balance means maximizing the per play yardage of both the receiving and the rushing games. If your rush is getting stuffed, you need an effective downfield game to open it up. If defenders are dropping into coverage, you need to be rushing more often. There is no magic number, as gameplanning, personnel, and situation often recommend what type of play ought to be called next.

  51. By Montana2Rice4Ever on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    Sweet baby Jesus, is there a single real 49er fan that even gets on here, or is it just a forum for Seahawks fans with their hopes up? And btw, the giants don’t just need the Vikings to lose, they also need to win and the redskins and bears to lose. Personally I hope we see them, but don’t get your hopes up. My real point is keep the friggin’ faith if you’re a fan, otherwise get the hell off of 49ers.com. I’m not on Seahawks.com or falcons.com or packers.com talking weak smack on your teams. Which I could ( we beat the packers in their house, we’ve beat the hawks 6 outta the last 7). Go spam people who care about your teams, and let the chips fall when it’s time. Believe me, they will fall.

  52. By crabber59 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    all right niner fans this is my last comment on this thread as i was just trying to stir the pot alittle and dang some of you niner fans are second guessing coach Humbug and his weird coaching style(changing QB’s towards the end of the season). There is no way scared Kap. is going to lead you guys to the super bowl, maybe when he gets alittle more exp. but not right now and you fools think he can. Niners have no back-ups for their tired defense and it will show in the playoffs, Kap will have happy feet and throw a pick or two and then all of you niner fans will be watching my Hawks marching to the Super Bowl.
    Wishing all you niner fans a happy new year and please don’t be too depressed when your 49ers get thumped out of the playoffs in the 1st rd.

    Go SEAHAWKS!!

  53. By phatalerror on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply

    I’m too busy trying to get Kaepologists to see reality to spam the forums of other NFL franchises. They’re much more irritating because they act like they are the ultimate 49er fans when they’ve been secretly nursing Manning envy for the better part of a decade. I can just simply tune out the fans of the other 31 teams.

  54. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    hey crabber59 I mean jerry melrose,,,,we know where you live now.

  55. By mfkram64 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    phatalerror u r back..funny when the niners beat the patriots all u sent were one line posts..they loss to a tough team at home where everyone knows it’s tough to win back to back road games never mind they win in new england were they never loss in dec…and to seattle probably top five toughest places to win if u r a visiting team…it was a total team let down after a huge road win….so be it..get off colin…the d can’t get off the field that’s not his fault…your stats r boring we get it u like alex well buddy he isn’t playing sooooo it’s kap….to say he wins against clueless cord’s is BS! beleichick is clueless so is the bears def. cord…u see what u r saying….the rams losses weren’t his fault….to sit and throw numbers out there is stupid…”.they had the ball this many minutes with alex to colin” blahblah BLAH! no one cares about alex right now it’s about winning with who is starting PERIOD! they r one win away from winning div…and a third seed what’s wrong with that? if vikings win they get 2nd seed please….move on! now with the cowboy out it’s time for the team to COWBOY UP! and win sunday!

  56. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    @phatalerror, I think your trying a bit too hard to push YOUR OPINION on people.
    we all agree that you think alex should still be the starter,as for myself, as long as we are winning and have a shot at a super bowl title,I support whoever is throwing the rock, I supported alex after he showed vast improvement under harbaughand I support kap because our head coach thinks kap can do more for us this year than alex, do I agree with it,? not completely, but I support it. now, are you a die hard fan of the 49ers? or just a casual fan posting your OPINION of how the coach runs the team. if you a die hard fan then I would say to you,keep the faith and trust in harbaugh, if your just a casual fan then I dont have much to say to you at all, just another robot trying to prove his OPINION, is more right than someone else’s. this is not an attack on your or anything but an attempt to understand you better……IN HARBAUGH WE TRUST……….

  57. By ace on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    seehakws marching to the superbowl, thats funny, thanx for that

  58. By ace on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    i think what phatalerror is really pointing out is that the the play calling and strategy is more foundamentally sound with the other guy, high percentage plays take more time off the clock and move the chains, utiliezing the beast gore more and throwing not for the fun of it but when u have too., is wise, lets go niners lets go !!! i still wanna see harbughbowl !!! i think that would be best superbowl niners beat ravens wooooooot !!!!

  59. By ace on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    oh and alex can make the throws to davis all day and crabtree, weve seen a season and a half of that,just saying,playcalling not that crazy about the pistol, wondering when the play calling will utilize the talent we have again, 6 touches for gore is not enuff obviuslly,i miss the 2 back formation and power running we used to cunfuse teams with our running game, then we could throw, im just saying, lets gooooooooo niners lets do this NINERS TIME NOW !!!!!

  60. By ace on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    as singletary wouild say i wanna smash it down their(f u c k i n g) mouthes, no but really lets go smash it down their freaking mouthes, rock the cardinals, and vikings at home come on peterson get mad and beat green bay plz

  61. By ace on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    i think we can win with either qb actually,this is our time right here right now !!!

  62. By ace on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    i just wanna see us come out and be prepared and handle business on sunday, if my mom was starting at qb she would say do what you have too do, and we will win, lol

  63. By mando on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    honestly all REAL niner fans should just stand behind the team and trust harbaugh instead of cryin about qbs forget that loss against the seagulls lets take our A game to every game we are about to play whoever is qb lets just be happy we are where we are and not a losing team anymore!!!!!!!

  64. By mando on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    get off the niners nuts seattle fans your hatin cuz we better n u kno it watch when u come 2 CANDLESTICK we’ll rock the seahawks AGAIN!!!

  65. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    9er fans are trying to ignore your drivel too!! Alex had his chance, the coaches feel Kaep gives us a better chance at winning now, not later and he has done nothing to prove them wrong at this point.

    If you put our 2 QB’s on the trading block 32 teams would take Kaepernick…No brag, just fact!!

  66. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    “honestly all REAL niner fans should just stand behind the team and trust harbaugh instead of cryin about qbs forget that loss against the seagulls…!”

    Except that if it were Smith in at quarterback and the 49ers had lost to the Seahawks, you would have typed: “honestly, what is Harbaugh thinking! Kaepernick would have never lost against the seagulls!”

  67. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    “the coaches feel Kaep gives us a better chance at winning now”

    Which is the more winning quarterback, the one whose team goes 6-2, or the one whose team goes 4-2? This doesn’t take fantastic skills with algebra or SQL. Smith’s winning percentage this year was 75%, while Kaepernick’s was 67%. Kaepernick hasn’t proved your statement correct.

  68. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    “phatalerror u r back..funny when the niners beat the patriots all u sent were one line posts..”

    You didn’t read enough of my posts during that period, so please read on:

    “to say [Kaepernick] wins against clueless cord’s is BS! beleichick is clueless so is the bears def. cord…u see what u r saying…”

    If you really did read my posts before the game, you saw my respect for Belicheck. If you really did read my posts after the game, you saw my respect for the 49ers’ defense, and my acknowledgement of the Patriots’ early game offensive meltdown. Nine times this season an offense has given up 4 turnovers in the first 35 minutes. You could expect that of the Bears, Bills, Cardinals, Chiefs, Dolphins, Jets, and Titans (note: rosters with horrible offensive lines and/or young or lost quarterbacks), but you don’t expect that of the Broncos under Peyton Manning or the Patriots under Tom Brady. And yet that is what happened, and it was the difference in that game, the very reason Kaepernick was able to put up so many points early in the game (his average distance to goal for the first ten drives of the game was 47.6 yards). Belicheck’s ability showed through from the late-third quarter onward when the turnovers ended, as Brady showed Kaepernick how to put up 28 points in under fifteen minutes without having fantastic starting field position. I wasn’t fooled for a moment about the ordinariness of Kaepernick’s performance that game.

    As for the Bears, they were simply unprepared, and their second-string quarterback didn’t help them at all.

  69. By 9erdog on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    seagulls cheap`shot artist? yep!

  70. By Yuan YH. on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    Quarterback position worries me.

    egomaniac Harbaugh could end up costing us the season by his bad decisions.

  71. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    Since some idiots like using statistics…Taking Alex’s first 6 games this year and Kaepernicks 6 games (comparing apples to apples)

    Kaep: 6 games (4-2); 222yds/game; 41.9 yds/game rush;10TD’s;26.2 pts/game; 3 ints; 1 fumble lost

    Alex: 6 games (4-2); 214.5yds/game; 18 yds/game rush; 8TD’s; 25.8pts/game; 4ints; 1 fumble lost

    I will take Kaep all day long!! Goes to show you can use stats however you want! However, in this case it only proves the obvious. You just don’t like how Harbaugh went about it…you will have to get over it if you are a fan of the 9ers!!

  72. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    Phalacio…you are the only one saying “if Smith did this…people would be saying this” 11yrs. seemed to be the only one bashing Alex on a weekly basis.

    I echo Mando…get off the 9ers…and the kids nuts!!

  73. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    It was great seeing Kaep show Brady the other week how to put up the points needed to win the game when the game was on the line!!

  74. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    Kaep is such a cool character under pressure as proven in just his first 6 games!!

  75. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    disagree with me all you want, it doesnt change the fact that error is going WAAAYYY out of his way to prove his point that alex should be the qb. he is not going to be. unless kap gets hurt, either support it or go away,, are you telling me because kap is the qb you dont want the 49ers to win? or that they cant? we bloggers have been smashing on 11years with no brain to move on fron the whole alex vs. kap thing,,,what error is posting is no different,,move on already,,the qb snivelling is redundant. kap is our starting qb,,PERIOD. coaches choice. and we get it, you want alex back, and since thats not going to happen can you just move on? if you cant your no better than 11years with no brain

  76. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    I recommend reading my above post that starts with ” Im a 49er fan,,and then post your opinions, for that is all they are, your opinions on what you think is best for the team, it seems some of you want kap to fail just so you can say I told you so. wether we like it or not, kap is the qb. and posting all these stats that prove alex or kap should be the starter mean nothing.why dont you try supporting WHOEVER is under center for ” our ” 49ers and stop trying prove coach harbaugh wrong?, whatever, regardless of who is under center will be cheered for this sunday @ ‘the ‘stick. and for you fair weather fans, you have already shown us who you are. this 49er faithful is just that, ” faithful “,,,IN HARBAUGH WE TRUST,,,

  77. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    Well said 49er”D”…that is all I have been trying to get across!

  78. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    Som people just do not like getting stats thrown back in their face…

  79. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    o and regarding richard the cheater sherman,the only reason he got off was because one of the collection cups leaked in the tray in which all the current tested cups were stored,not leaked into your specimen cup but into the tray in which ALL cups were stored, that is called a technicality,,your still guilty but your lawyer found a loophole, you were found guilty back in school for using p.e.d.’s and you were found guilty in the nfl, you got away with,lets see how well you play after it works its way out of your system cuz if you get caught using them again it will be for the whole year, because you were caught and got away with it because some lab tech for got to check each sample cup.

  80. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    49er”D”…there is one person signing on in a different name so they can bolster their position!! ala Jeromy and 11yrs…

  81. By Hermie on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    Phatal has at least three names!

  82. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    big shouts out to donte whitner & dashon goldson, the first starting tandem to start in the pro bowl since who knows when. I just hope that our guys wont be playing in the pro bowl, for that would mean they are playing in the SUPER bowl

  83. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    its now up to randy moss and aj jenkins to pick up the slack at wr. take a guess who was throwing to jenkins when alex was the starter,? thats right it was kaepernick,,,im hopng these two pick up right where they left off when kap was running the scout team.think about the speed on the field at the same time, walker,moss jenkins lamichael vernon with crabs grabbing everything that comes his way, sounds good to me sign me up,,im all in with ” our ” team

  84. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    set the stats aside,,,49er faithful unite!!!! this sundays game puts us back on top with a win,,remember, arizona is a division opponent, and always plays us tough at home. and while you may support alex, remember to cheer kap on, for he is the starting qb of ” our ” team. and if kap gets hurt, then alex will get his chance to show coach harbaugh once and for all wether he is the guy to lead this team to the super bowl or not. either way, ALL OF US, THE 49ER FAITHFUL, DIE HARD OR CASUAL FAN, SHOULD BE SUPPORTING WHOEVER IS THROWING THE ROCK,,,,THIS GAME IS FOR THE NFC WEST TITLE,,AND THE POSSIBLE #2 SEED,,,,at the very least we shall be the #3 seed and host a playoff game, and it will be either the cowboys or the reskins im pretty sure,,I think its 3 hosts 6 and 4 hosts 5, cant remember, its been so long since the 49ers were in this same position

  85. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    “are you telling me because kap is the qb you dont want the 49ers to win? or that they cant?”

    How about option ‘C’?: Today, Kaepernick will do less to help the 49ers win and potentially do more harm compared to Smith. The 49ers are a team, and thus between other teams randomly melting down as the Bears and the Patriots did vs. the 49ers, and the 49ers’ defense playing lights out, Kaepernick can have any potential negative impact minimized merely due to situation. With that said, Kaepernick has done nothing in a tangible way to make fans feel confident about being able to win in the post-season when compared to what Smith has done. Nothing.

    I don’t equate being a sports team fan with swallowing whatever the franchise feeds me. I can choose for myself how I wish to root for my team, and my being a fan isn’t somehow compromised by my vehement disapproval of the move to demote Alex Smith because he was concussed. I am not anti-fan merely because I disliked the most significant decision of the head coach.

    I will be rooting for the 49ers when they host the Cardinals on Sunday, but unlike most “fans”, I’m not looking ahead to the playoffs already: I’m not certain the 49ers will win that game handily unless Brian Hoyer goes on to the field and has the sort of game everyone says he will have, and that by nature means that Kaepernick will not win this game moreso than the 49ers’ defense has to win it and/or the Cardinals’ offense would have to lose it.

  86. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    “Phatal has at least three names!”

    Not that I need aliases, as the truth is the truth regardless of who says it, and regardless of whether anyone else agrees. I place the most emphasis on writing coherent posts that can be readily understood by those with a nominal measure of intelligence, and whether they agree or not, there is at least a basis for coherent discussion. I don’t have time to log on with an alias to thumbs-up my own posts or parrot anything I’ve already said.

    If this was an attempt to discredit what I have stated, reasonable, thinking people will disregard your accusation as a meaningless insult. I have already determined based on your earlier posts that you are not above meaningless insults. I don’t write anything here on your account, and I will leave the matter at that.

    And as for “truth” as it regards the propriety or wisdom of the decision to give Kaepernick the reins of the offense come playoff time, my being right will either be proved or disproved when either Kaepernick is benched for Smith, or when the 49ers are eliminated from the playoffs. If Kaepernick is starting in the Super Bowl, obviously I will have been proved wrong. I find that outcome highly unlikely.

  87. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    “Since some idiots like using statistics…Taking Alex’s first 6 games this year and Kaepernicks 6 games (comparing apples to apples)
    Kaep: 6 games (4-2); 222yds/game; 41.9 yds/game rush;10TD’s;26.2 pts/game; 3 ints; 1 fumble lost
    Alex: 6 games (4-2); 214.5yds/game; 18 yds/game rush; 8TD’s; 25.8pts/game; 4ints; 1 fumble lost
    I will take Kaep all day long!! Goes to show you can use stats however you want! However, in this case it only proves the obvious. You just don’t like how Harbaugh went about it…you will have to get over it if you are a fan of the 9ers!!”

    Does anyone here really not consider this cherry picked? And yet under the terms set by Hermie, here are the team totals during those two sets of six weeks:

    Alex Smith’s 49ers, Weeks 1-6: 2320 total yards; 11/17 on Red Zone TD conversions; 190:01 TOP; 145 offensive points
    Colin Kaepernick’s 49ers, Weeks 11-16: 2089 total yards, 10/25 on Red Zone TD conversions; 184:41 TOP (includes TOP during the overtime loss to the Rams); 141 offensive points

    Hermie should learn how to use statistics.

    Quarterbacks don’t play in a vacuum. Fantasy Points don’t win team games. The 49ers’ offense is producing less with Kaepernick playing, particularly in the red zone (Kaepernick was advertised as the “Red Zone Weapon” Smith ‘never was’).

    I’ve never argued that Kaepernick couldn’t put up Smith’s numbers. Kaepernick is good for empty yardage, and his record for closing out drives is clearly poor (40% compared with Smith’s 60% when you include Smith’s games against the Seahawks and the Cardinals). The Super Bowl isn’t necessarily won by the quarterback with the best stat line, but is always the team with the most points, and usually the team with the most points scored offensively. Smith has demonstrated the ability to lead an offense that puts up more points than the offense Kaepernick leads.

    Thank you for playing.

  88. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    you find that highly unlike huh? guess you have no faith then, what a whiner you are making yourself out to be,,,if alex isnt playing we are going to lose,,that is what you are saying without saying it,,im not certain the 49ers will win it?,,you prove my point about the kind of fan you are. fair weather,,we have won and lost with both alex and kap as our starter, the numbers almost mirror each other, kap has done nothing to make fans feel confident, there you go putting words in other peoples mouths,,your trying to force feed your opinion on others who dont agree with you. do you see it yet? you make yourself look like a bandwagon jumper fan. oh alex isnt playing so we will lose,,if kap is playing I dont think we will win,,blah blah blah,,have you no faith? guess not, you say without alex playing we will fail, but kap has got us in the playoffs, and kap will either succeed or fail, I am behind him because he is the starting qb of ” our ” team. your biggest problem it seems is that you cant support someone who YOU think cant succeed, let alone what everyone else thinks about kap,,,including our head coach,,I think harbaugh knows much more about how to judge who is the better qb than you do error…IN HARBAUGH WE TRUST,,,

  89. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    and answer this,,why are you the only one who just cant move on from the qb issue? you go on and on and on and im pretty sure no one reads the full length worn out chapters you post, they are redundant. tired,worn out, they say the same thing over and over and over. you are no fan of this team, just another wanna be fan who jumped off the fan-wagon after young retired and cant embrace the 49ers untill they are back on top again. I know 65,000 others who would agree with me whole-heartedly about the kind of fan you portray yourself to be.

  90. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    “the numbers almost mirror each other”

    That is simply not true. ‘Mirroring’ suggests the numbers are different from a purely acedemic standpoint. These figures are substantially different. They identify and consolidate what you’ve been seeing during the games. Kaepernick’s individual numbers are better than Smith’s in some measures. What happened to everyone else? “It’s the coaching!” “It’s the kicking!” “It’s the defense!” “It’s the schedule!” Users of the site have been making those complaints, but it is none of those so much as it is that Kaepernick is not the better complement to the team next to Smith. Some of the QB’s numbers are up, while the numbers for rushing are down across the board. Quarterbacks are like a puzzle piece. Kaepernick doesn’t fit as well.

    And I never said nor implied that “the 49ers cannot win the Super Bowl with Kaepernick,” nor anything like it. Don’t attribute to me that which I never said, and don’t suggest that I am less a fan of the 49ers than you are because I think Kaepernick is less of a quarterback than Smith. Do I believe Harbaugh has more information concerning Kaepernick and Smith than I do? Yes. Since neither you nor I are privy to all details concerning the two quarterbacks, I go with what I’ve got, and that is the game footage, the record, and the stats. All three suggest that Smith was the better quarterback, and that Kaepernick’s performance has been inferior to what Smith was doing this year. You have every right to place your trust in Harbaugh rather than any analysis I provide; I can’t quantify the eye test, and therefore your complete opinion of the matter is going to differ somewhat from mine.

    I am not the only one that feels this way, although I am perhaps the most vocal about it on this site. My reasoning on this is transparent, opening the way for dialogue. Instead of attacking me as a bandwagon fan (I can think of a lot of easier ways to bandwagon than to support a quarterback with the history of Alex Smith), you might just try coherently explaining what Kaepernick does that should give anyone reason for confidence in the 49ers.

    Thank you for reading.

  91. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    see, I GUARANTEE you no one but yourself read that book that you just posted

  92. By bow53 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    @phatalerror help me undestand ur post, are u saying that , the post season has’nt begun yet, and ur waving the white flag already cuz’ ck7 is in the saddle? cuz’ if thats the case in my opinion ur not a true 49er fan, or ur a person that gives up easily what ever life throws at u,thats my opinion on u,then if i’m wrong then accept my apology…see to me the meaning of a true fan is u have to live w/ it from thick to thin, win or lose , u still have to luv em’thats my definition of a 49er fan….not throwing the towel if the fight has’nt begun yet….

  93. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    bow53:

    I’m not rooting for another team besides the 49ers (aside from the Vikings for just this week). I’m not as confident about the 49ers winning the Super Bowl as I was before Smith was concussed in week 10 (note: The 49ers were down 0-14 in that game, and I never questioned whether the 49ers were a Super Bowl team then). I have been open to evidence suggesting that Kaepernick is an improvement to the team. Any such evidence has been unsustained and filled with asterisks.

    I have never said that the 49ers cannot win with Kaepernick, although it’s forthright of me to qualify that statement by mentioning that since the 49ers began starting Kaepernick, I picked the 49ers to lose twice in Pick ‘Em leagues (to the Saints and to the Patriots, making me 2-5 on the 49ers in Pick ‘Em since Alex’s injury; I never picked against them in Survival Leagues; I never picked against the 49ers while Smith was starting; I don’t wager money on any games). If ‘being a fan’ means forfeiting my objectivity, I am not a fan by that definition. Of course, last year, I was cheering for the 49ers when everyone thought they were a long shot for the playoffs, and back then, many would have argued that I was not objective. My confidence in the team at that time was well placed. Said confidence was higher then than it is now.

    I own a business I have operated for 9 years, and I have been married for 11 years (her name is not Alex), so I infer from that that I am not a quitter.

  94. By bow53 on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    so, ur not a 49er fan either , right,…, now i understand…thank you……

  95. By phatalerror on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not certain why you understand the above to mean I am not a fan, but if that’s what you think then so be it.

  96. By tanglung on Dec 29, 2012 | Reply

    SAN FRANCISCO FORTY NINERS

  97. By tanglung on Dec 29, 2012 | Reply

    Enough said

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