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Morning Tailgate: Dec. 11

Posted by Taylor Price on December 11, 2012 – 10:20 AM

A Week 15 road win over New England and a Seattle road loss to Buffalo (in Toronto)… and the San Francisco 49ers are in, the playoffs that is, as NFC West Champs. If that scenario happens this week, the team would be happier than Anthony Dixon after a 1-yard touchdown run.

A win over the Patriots and a Seattle win over the Bills… and the 49ers can make their way into the dance with a postseason bid, just not a division title.

The 49ers can make the playoffs if the following scenarios take place:

San Francisco clinches NFC West division with:

1)      SF win + SEA loss

San Francisco clinches a playoff spot with:

1)      SF win OR

2)      SF tie + DAL loss or tie + WAS loss or tie + MIN loss or tie OR

3)      SF tie + DAL loss or tie + WAS loss or tie + GB-CHI does not end in tie OR

4)      SF tie + DAL loss or tie + MIN loss or tie + CHI loss OR

5)      SF tie + NYG loss + MIN loss or tie + CHI loss OR

6)      MIN loss + DAL loss + WAS loss + SEA loss or tie

ESPN.com’s NFL writers rank the 49ers as the league’s No. 4 overall team going into Week 15.

CSNBayArea.com’s Matt Maiocco believes Chris Culliver is ready to pounce on a starting role.

Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle examined the offense’s four timeouts called against Miami.

Robert Klemko of USA TODAY looked at New England’s big home win over Houston.



A man of many talents…

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39 Responses to “Morning Tailgate: Dec. 11”

  1. By 49thsamurai on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Funny picture of Vernon. It’s great to be here at this point in the season with a team that looks ready to win it all (qb controversy or not)

  2. By RED N GOLD on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Honestly, im tired of hearing about qb controversy. there is none, its just the media trying to divide our locker room for news. Thats why Jacobs got suspended. He let the media talk to him and was more worried about himself than the team. I support alex smith, i support kap, i support moss, i even support jacobs. Its 9ers or nothing.

  3. By Will Hirsch on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    No controversy? Just wait until next Sunday night after Colin has his a** handed to him by the Pats. You’re going to hear some loud, unhappy niners fans who think it isn’t just the media who divided that locker room. I thought we stood a chance at making it to the playoffs and maybe beyond. Not any more. We should have totally dominated and instead, we were so close point wise that we could have easily lost.

  4. By get vernon involved on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    we need him to win a championship. throw him the ball down field!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. By jrooster1 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Will, I will expect you to admit your mistake when we march into New England and put Tommy Boy on his backside. He had a field day against a very poor Texans team. The wrath of the Smith Bros will make you eat those silly words!

  6. By Hermie on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    We are not expected to win, with or without Alex, so it should not be a big surprise. However, if we do win, and I expect it to be a close game, I hope you Kaep haters choke on your…I guess I was wrong!! It is unbelievable that you people really think Alex has the talent of Kaepernick!

  7. By Micah on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Lol hey Will hirsch your an idiot lol! Kap is gonna get dominated by the Patriots? LOL wow! Have you watched any football this year? The Patriots do not have a defense I am worried about shutting Kap down. They are by far not the worst D in the league but they are far from even close to the best. Kap is going to shred the Patriots D and the Niners D is going to contain Tom Brady and the Patriots Offense and hold them to under 20 points. The Niners will get a huge road victory 27-17 in primetime considering the Harbaugh Niners have never lost a primetime game!!!! Goooooo Ninnneeerrrss!!!!! Superbowl bound 2 starting QBs lol!!!

  8. By Micah on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Harbaugh is a genius and anyone here who still is questioning his decision to start Kap is not a true Niner fan. If Jim Harbaugh decided to go coach somewhere else we the Niners would not have made in too the Championship game last season we wouldn’t have made it even too the playoffs. This year would be none different without Jim as our leader and decision maker we would be once again in the midst of a lost pointless season. But we are not, we have the leagues best and smartest coach and GM. Coach knows why he made the switch to Kap and everyone else should also.

  9. By Isaac on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think people are missing the point with this QB controversy. I’m a Alex Smith supporter, but I’m not a ‘Kaep hater’. Kaep had one good game against a Bears team that didn’t show up to play. He couldn’t beat the Rams twice, the defense won the Saints and Miami game (Kaep had 1 good play in that game) and, based on how he has played, I do not expect him to play well enough THIS YEAR to beat a team like the Patriots. Smith has been consistant for as long as he’s had consistancy. Changing QBs in the middle of the season and sticking with the backup after several mediocre performances does not justify leaving him in. I hope Kaep is ready for next year, but he’s clearly not this year. Like RED N GOLD said, I support my team, I support its players, I hope for the best, but I can’t realistically think Kaep will win the season out after how he has played.

  10. By Isaac on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Micah – The Bears is the only team which Kaep has ‘shredded’ so far. If he shreds the Pats, it will be a change. The team is always greater than any current player or coach, doubting based on what I’ve seen that Kaep was the right decision doesn’t make me less of a Niner’s fan than someone being a Democrat makes them less of an American. Kind of a ridiculous argument, don’t you think?

  11. By Isaac on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Micah – One more thing, the Pats D contained Arian Foster pretty well AND the niners have lost a Primetime game under Harbough – Thanksgiving evening 2011 vs the Ravens. So…trying to be realistic here…

  12. By wearethelostkids on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Kaepernick didn’t really “shred” the bears. Shredding is throwing 3+tds like Brady did last night. And are you really that oblivious to think that the Patriots D sucks, the only reason why they are ranked so low is because they let the QB air it out. And what do they do? they cause turnovers and fumbles. So far every game Kaep played he has fumbled. Open your eyes, the patriots have won 5-1 at home, that Arizona game could have been theres if they didn’t miss the field goal. Kolbs didn’t turn the ball over too, he was the game manager. Oh and whats the coldest game that the 49ers have played since Harbaugh took over? Baltimore Ravens game last year? A kid from Nevada isn’t going to excel in freezing temperature especially at the Patriots. Oh and don’t count on the D too much because Brady doesn’t throw ints or get sacked. His O line is one of the best in the league. Harbaugh is a genius but there is no way he is going to out smart the real genius with three rings around his fingers,Belichick.

  13. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    its great to see alot of new names here on the morning tailgate blog, the place where ” the faithful ” express their views and opinions. we all seem to be wanting the same thing. A SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP. now,wether you are for alex smith or if your a CK7 supporter, we all agree that we need to improve on 3rd down offensively, and better clock management from kap, also some more points out of the pa ssing game as well. we have a smashing running game, and talent across the board at wide-out.. we run a 3-4 cover 2 scheme on defense that plays very well when we run a man to man coverage behind our front 7. I think we will match up very well against the pats. a good game plan and the mistake free execution of said game plan should equate in a victory.,,,,remember,,,

  14. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    our lb’s can cover better than the texans, and they do a great job of keeping things in front of them, in fact the biggest match up to me is carlos rodgers vs. wes welker. brady stands in the pocket as long as he can waiting for things to develop downfield, so rogers will be following welker around all day. culliver will get lloyd and brown will cover stallworth. that leaves p. will and n bow to clean up the rest. I think coach vic will be running some things that will get brady to throw a couple of picks this upcoming game. whitner will be responsible in run support or te coverage. this will be a satement game for the 49ers defense. this is a chance to put the rest of the league on notice that the 49ers defense is for real and can lead this team to a super bowl victory. ball control and hit brady,,,ALOT !!!

  15. By temper11 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply


  16. By ace on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    cant say p a s s e s that is funny

  17. By Tom Thumb on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    When I read idiotic comments like “Kap couldn’t beat the Rams twice when the truth is that he drove them down for field goal wins in BOTH GAMES and it was Akers who blew it both times, it makes me realize how dumbed down this society has become. Anyone who thinks Alex is anywhere near the QB that Kaep is, needs therapy.

  18. By bow53 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    as i was sayn in the other page, the pats loves to throw the ball most of the time, they seldom run the ball, the corners and safeties should step up here, avoid penalties , complete shut down of there wide outs, cuz; thats all brady does put the ball in the air ,solid defense is gunna dictate the out come of game @jrooster1 i agree, the smith brother is gunna be breathing on brady’s neck all night long not to mention ahmad brooks

  19. By bow53 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply


  20. By trueninerfan49 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Man i like kap i think he will be a very good qb in the nfl……eventually and i hate to say this but all these qb’s that like running alot are always getting hurt….i don’t want to see that happen….but there’s always a very good chance…and Alex got that concussion and he wasn’t throwing it…..i know ya’ll it can happen on any play, an injury can……i still believe Alex should be our starter…taking nothing from kap, last year we would have been in the big one if not for a couple of fumbles……and lets not forget this man went into G.B. and did a great job and that game against arizona…if not for a dropped ball he would have been perfect.
    I back coach on his decesions and i’m a fan of both q.b.’s but Alex has gone through a hell of alot and has hung in there…….alot of guys would have cried and whined……he’s a tuff dude…….go Niners lets give Brady a wake up call.

  21. By terry on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    lost kids is that the same genius who was beaten twice in the superbowl by the same team with the exact same gameplan, yeah that team alex can’t beat.

  22. By tony hallerman on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    i really don’t care which qb is playing lets us finish off this season to the superbowl but really kap has been doing o.k.just think if something does happen to kaep i truly believe alex will be able to finish the job what was taking from him i don’t know how alex is hanging in there being benched you would think by now he isn’t telling harbaugh to cut him loose

  23. By phatalerror on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    2012 Rating when Alex Smith throws to Vernon Davis: 138.2
    2012 Rating when Colin Kaepernick throws to Vernon Davis: 109.5

    In a little over 33 quarters, Alex threw for 4 touchdowns to Vernon Davis.
    In a little over 20 quarters, Colin Kaepernick threw for 1 touchdown to Vernon Davis.

    Which quarterback utilizes Vernon Davis better? Your honor, the defendant rests their case.

    Not that I’ve ever argued that Smith was better than Kaepernick merely because Smith got more mileage out of Davis. That’s just one of many, many, many indications that the team was more effective on offense AND defense when Smith was the starting quarterback.

  24. By phatalerror on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    “Where is Vernon Davis?” you ask? He’s chip-blocking like he typically has against blitz-happy defenses. Kaepernick hasn’t developed the ability to read progressions quickly enough at the NFL level, and Kaepernick isn’t even seeing Davis. This is just one more area where all of the Smith-haters had to retract: After a big day against a hapless Bears defense constantly backed up to their own goal line by their second-string offense’s incompetence, Kaepernick has registered 3 completions for 19 yards to Vernon Davis over the last three games.

  25. By Sandi on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    This game is going to be SCARY! The team does not look the same, the OL needs to step it up and the play calling is SAD! Open the offense up…..we have so many key players…PLAY THEM……Why do they take Moss out all 3rd downs???? REALLY…….Niners need ALEX, he is the leader, CK is lacking in leadership. He is new and young not experience enough for the PLAY OFFS…..

  26. By Edual on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Everyone Relax! The 49ers will be ready for the Patriots. Get your popcorn ready. :). Go 49ers!

  27. By Hermie on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Sandi…I agree in one aspect, this game AND the next game are scary. Personally, I am excited to see Kaep. play and that is nothing against Alex. I have supported hime last year and even more this year. But, I have to believe the coaches involved (Harbaugh, Roman, Cryst and maybe Christianson and Evero) feel to get to the next level they need to go with Kaep.

    I have to believe the offense being called right now is to help Colin succeed (as did Alex under this offense) and gain his confidence before throwing too much at him. This could also help us in the playoffs by throwing in plays teams have not seen before.

  28. By Hermie on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    If a playoff game started to get out of hand, I think Harbaugh would bring in Alex. If it was a home game, you would hear the “whole” stadium cheering for him, maybe for the first time!! lol

    Think what a lift that would be!! I hope that does not happen and I do not think there will be any games that get out of control. Third down play calling has to improve!!

  29. By phatalerror on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    “If a playoff game started to get out of hand, I think Harbaugh would bring in Alex. If it was a home game, you would hear the “whole” stadium cheering for him, maybe for the first time!! lol”
    Except that that scenario is not the right scenario for any quarterback to succeed. “Get out of hand” means what? The 49ers are down by 9 points? 14 points? 17 points? And after putting Smith in only when every down is not a rushing down and after the defense is sending the dogs at him, you expect things to improve?
    Take your pick: Alex is good enough to overcome a fifteen point deficit in a half, or Alex is good enough to help his team win playoff games. In the scenario you describe, Alex has to be the first, and most Alex supporters would hesitate to agree with that statement considering the condition of the offensive line.

  30. By Hermie on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    According to a lot of you Alex can do anything. Now phalatio is saying he could not bring us back from a 10 or 14pt deficit. I do not necessarily believe he could either.

    Most people are saying Kaep has more talent than Alex, but he is not ready to play yet…isn’t that what the coaches are getting paid for…determine when a person is ready to help the team win.

    All QB’s make mistakes and have off days…Sorry there was no “given” that we make the SB whether Alex was/is in there or not.

    I always supported Alex and rooted for him no matter what I felt personally. I just don’t know what you are giong to do if Kaep helps to win it all!!

  31. By ogre on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Changing from conventional offense to “pistol” in the middle of the season? GRo had just begun to “open” the playbook with Alex and the Oline. Now, no longer the “hot hand”; a new offensive scheme (to accomodate Kap) has been attempted to be installed. IN THIS I DON’T TRUST~ According to some; I am to blindly hope that coach is a genius? Well I don’t believe: either in this decision or the perspective that “fans” just don’t know enough to hold an opinion. Seems to be the social perspective of life lately. Don’t believe in either. Back on point; Kap has the potential and Alex has the experience. You have lost you continuity; both with play calling and team trust. This has been brought on by Jim Harbaugh’s poor decision upon qb. But its still possible to look good; let Kap run it into the ground (where no qb can bring you back) then bring in Alex and blame him. Good cover. A Sad State of Affairs. Its got to be about the $$$$$$$$$$$. And now KARMA will get you. Question is will management/coaching get the memo? Good Luck Niners.

  32. By 9erdog on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    karma is what karma does ……………..

  33. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    wow, the lack of faith with some of you leads me to believe you are fair weather fans. to some of you it seems that if we arent scoring 42 points a game and giving up more than 7 points on defense we wont win anything.being one of ” The faithful “, means just that,, having faith,,even if you think coach harbaugh is making a huge mistake playing CK7, benching alex smith, or the play calling of G-RO. have some faith, during one of the 49ers super winning season we went 10-6, struggled at the end of the season losing 2 of the last 3 games of the regular season I think, and we went on to win it all. that season had its ups and downs and there was plenty to cast doubt upon.,,,have faith,,for even if we go deep in the playoffs, and by some chance dont make the super bowl, we have had another, WINNING SEASON, under coach harbaugh. that would make 2 years in the last 12-14 years that we werent the laffing stock of the nfl,,so quit acting like a bunch of spoiled brats that dont get thier way, we are once again being talked about as one of the best teams in the league and we owe it all to harbauch,his staff and trent baalke,,,IN HARBAUGH WE TRUST,,,49ER DEFENSE #1 2012

  34. By 9erdog on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    This was going to be our SB year, and everybody was on the same page, for the most part. And now since the QB change things seems to have gone sideways! Posters are pretty near 50/50 on the change, but I think the locker room is uneasy!
    I don’t think the teams as conferrable as it was last year or earlier this year for that matter? This is a big test next week, if we think that Fisher did a job on us, I have to wonder what next week has in store for us? I believe what we’re seeing is what can happen to a second year coach … whatever?

  35. By 9erdog on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Bottom line! it was just a dumb move changing QB 9 games in to a winning season, If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! But the damaged has been done, trying to go back now is like trying to put the tooth paste back into the tube! Too late for that.
    So myself I how it works out, do I think it will ‘No’ I think the better defense’s will make it too hard for Kaepernick. Though I do think he is the QB for the future, but this is not the future!
    “who has it better then us?” yeah right … just asking`

  36. By 49erdefense2012 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    what a quitter you are 9erdog, have you no faith at all ?? what kind of fan are you

  37. By Lucas D. Gartner on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Hey team. Give this to Jim, the head couch.
    You know Jim, i am a 10 year old boy and im just trying to let you know that when
    you put in Colin K. when we went up against NY Giants.
    i thought that you were plane stupid but on the other hand, Alex S. had a
    Concushen but so what he lost only 10 yards but Colin lost 20 yards so even tho
    I’m only 10 years old i can tale you that Colin K. has only what 3 or more good
    games whale guese what Alex Smith had about 100 good games. I’m just trying
    to say is that if you keep Colin K. in for starter we are not going to the
    Super Bowl or even maybe not the play offs!!!
    Letting you know that number 7 sucks and the number
    11 rules

    From Lucas Gartner

  38. By Sandi on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Hermie, I hope you are right…..When you listen to the NFL- most of them are in disarry regarding the QB. I was on the page and Niners are rated # 5 and the Pats # 1……..Brady has an arm and will throw throw throw…….This game is gonna be scary!…….

  39. By phatalerror on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    What the ten year-old lacks in tact he makes up for in simple powers of observation.

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